[It's also cause kissing feels... very intimate. Too intimate for someone who doesn't want connections. Or who has believed there was no point in making them when you were just going to vanish from the world. What was the point? Idia raised his lip a bit, unable to stop himself from commenting,] You one of those into sharp teeth? [He doesn't get it. He really doesn't. But that's because he's seeing it from having said sharp teeth. And hating them.
He blinks a few times at her requirements, pausing to take a sip from his can as he has questions but... ehh, not worth it right now. If it's a no then it's a no. And really, it's not like those were the first places he would go with, well, all of this. Though a bit of a look from him with the mention of no toys. Yeah, that's good to start, he guesses? Just... ehh... tech's so much easier than... most stuff. Tech he knows, this all he doesn't. In theory, sure, just... not in practice.] No, that's all fine. Kinda... [Then a huff of a sigh.] Was gonna say might be 'hardcore' to start with but... not with this place, huh?
[Eeeehhh, as long as they're doing warnings, sighh...] Um... you, ah... saw it a bit but... my, ah... my hair changes when I'm... ah... [Oh gods...] Excited... or embarrassed at that time but... also, ah... yeah.
Sometimes Hades' teeth would get sharp. Mine do too when things get heated. Claws too. [ She raises her hands and makes claw-like motions at him. ] Sometimes a little biting and scratching is fun.
[ She lets out a soft laugh. ] No, it's certainly not here. One of my first times involved a remote-controlled vibrator. [ She pauses looking thoughtful. ] Which might not actually be a bad start?
I mean, hear me out, you don't have to really do anything other than control the toy and it'll still count for you so long as I get off. [ They probably wouldn't accept something like that every time for quota, but it wouldn't be the worst start. ]
[ She smiles softly at him. ] That's nothing. When I, um, orgasm I grow wings and explode with all kinds of leaves and flowers. I basically turn into a rose bush.
[ Which is part of why she doesn't like being on her back and beneath someone. The other part having to do with past circumstances. ]
I think if you bite or scratch me you would puncture through me. [It's not as evident due to how covered up Idia normally is, but he's on the skinny side. Maybe on the too skinny side, able to see a bit too much of his bones under his skin. He's... still in recovery from his time at home. It would take time before he fully recovered from it, but he was always naturally on the thin side.
He... also rather likes that idea of the remote-controlled vibration, even perking up a little at it's mention and... pushing it to the side with a shake of his head. Nope, nope, not going there. Reel it back in. But... that does sound fun... and he has been playing around with some toys, on ways to improve them, hmm... and if she puts it like that.] Ah, maybe we can keep that, um, as an idea...? For later?
So you're saying clean up with you is just a bit more? [Well, she got a smile out of him over his knees, not really laughing at her, but just... amused at the idea of that. Then a bit of a scoffing sound, but not fully losing that smile.] Fire normally burns plants... ah, not that my hair does, at all, not even when I'm angry...
Then I will refrain from doing so. [ She does enjoy leaving marks on her partners, it probably stems from her possessive personality, but if he doesn't want it she will try to remember not to do it. That's not always an easy task in the heat of the moment.
She bobs her head in a nod. ] Yeah, we can try that another time.
[ She lets out a laugh. ] Yeah, though I can deal with the plants easily enough. The leaves and petals left behind, however, you'll need to vacuum for those.
Oh, that's fine, I'll just upgrade Zappy to deal with it. [Hmm, talking off, Idia putting a foot down as he looks around the floor, including under the table for,] Ah, there. [Pointing towards a little robot vacuum as it made it's way out of his room, scooting around on the floor as it went about its job to clean the floor.] Arachne should be around somewhere too, but she stays on the walls and ceiling.
[As for refraining from stuff,] I'm not, hm... [Give him a moment.] I guess... I wanna... learn what I like? [Idia sounding unsure as he says this, or maybe just confused.] I mean, I-I, ah, I've really just read and watched stuff not... really done stuff... with others, before being here. It's all... new. Just 'cause I like something in media or don't don't mean will irl, ya know? I-I, ah, I... kinda wanna try bunch of stuff, just... not, ah... with my teeth, that's all. [Part of him wants to... but... he could just do so much damage with his teeth, it's better to not even tempt himself.]
Huh? [ She looks around as well until she spots the little robot. She tries to spot the other but isn't exactly sure what she's looking for. ]
No, that makes sense. [ She says as she turns her attention back to him. ] It took me a little while before I reached the point where I wanted to experiment and try things to figure out what I liked and what I didn't.
Well, is there anything you've seen you'd like to start with?
[Oh, spotting her looking around, Idia calls out.] Arachne, where are you? [A little 'do do dooo' response coming from behind one of those drawn curtains, a smaller robot than Zappy appearing, eight 'legs' on the bot that moved as if it was 'walking' the entire time it moves on the wall.
That knocked him out of the distraction of his bots though, eyes wide as Idia's mind goes blank, nothing coming up at all and...] I-I-I... donno? I-I, ah, I hadn't really... thought about what wanted to do here... not, ah, not like with you, just... all of this. I've just... ah, just been... meeting quota with like... eh, [Ehh, it's so embarrassing admitting this. It had been embarrassing the first time he had decided to sort this by paying for it, but it had been a plan, and having a plan helped.] Ah, handjobs or... ah, blowjobs, at... places 'round here that offer that... [Yup, not looking at her, needing to not to just get through this.] But... that's it, really.
[Then the other concern he had since this was so different to that. She was choosing to spend time with him, not forced to.] I-I, a-ah... donno how good I'll be... a-at all... sorry.
She covers her mouth in an attempt to cover her giggling at his reaction. She fails, but at least she tries. ]
You don't need to apologize. You won't be the first I've been with that doesn't have experience and that's fine. We all have to start somewhere.
[ She looks thoughtful for a moment. ] I think a good place to start would just be to do some physical exploration. You know, just see where you like being touched and where you don't.
[If Idia had any self esteem at all he might be worried about how much he's underselling himself. That macho BS of expecting to know it all and not admit lack of sexual knowledge. But he doesn't. He knows what he's good at, and... this is a big question mark to him.] Yeah, yeah, I guess. [Ehh, why couldn't he be as smooth as characters he reads about?]
Oh, um, ok, yeah, that makes sense. [Yeah, maybe if he thinks about it like that. Like a check list. In fact, yeah, his brain likes that.] Ah, maybe... as we go, um... make a list? To try? Stuff? [...he knows he's a nerd Persephone, he can't help it... but plans help him, well, not panic.]
[ She has to admit, it's kind of refreshing to talk to someone that is willing to admit what they don't know.
She smiles when he agrees to that, clapping her hands together. ] Excellent!
The real question is... how to start? Personally, I think undressing each other and touching and whatnot would be a good way to do it. Usually... that would also involve some kissing but since you already took that off the table. [ She shrugs. She finds kissing to be a good distraction and a turn-on, little more than that.
Unless it's Hades. But everything with Hades would be a completely different matter. ]
[...oh. Oh yeah... that was normal, right? That's how people normally did it and... oh gods. Idia just... the idea of that is... everything he's done here he's tried to keep covered as possible, to not be exposed but... a tremor shaking his hands as he knots his fingers together, holding tightly to each other, head down and just... he would have to get used to this... right? Riddle had warned him, this place won't be nice to him, he has to just accept it and... try and learn to tolerate it. And here, Persephone was offering a chance to do it... well, safely? He guesses...
He just... hates it. He hates it so much. His body. It's such a reminder that he's a Shroud. Not Idia, just his bloodline. Just some skinny shut in who just... ehh. He really is a poor choice for her...] Maybe this is a mistake... [Idia's voice soft with his head down, looking to his hands as they worry. She has better things to do then waste time on him.] You gotta have better options...
[ His reaction leaves her confused. Did she suggest the wrong thing?
He's not wrong about her having other options, but she wants to help him. It's definitely better to have someone that wants to help rather than to be forced into an uncomfortable situation. ]
I... [ She pauses, thinking for a moment before speaking calmly. ] What is the problem? What part of what I suggested doesn't work for you?
[All of this?! Everything about this world doesn't work for him! Why was he even dragged here?! He's the last person who should be here! Lifting his hands to his face, Idia closes his eyes behind them, lips pulled back in a snarl and... ehhh, his shoulder sagging after a moment. He has no choice. Like normal. Story of his life. Fuck the Fates. Really.
When he speaks again it's quite, and... full of defeat.] No, it's fine. It's something I'll have to deal with eventually... [He had told Riddle, gods of all people Riddle, when they were trapped in that ice cave together, but that was while that spell or drug or whatever was effecting them, forced them to open up more. Here... there was none of that, not with her... but... she should know, right? A chance to leave if she wants to. She would be smart to.] I... hate my body... all of it. A-all the stuff I've done here... I've tried to stay covered as possible...
[ She's quiet for a moment, expression thoughtful.
She can't really understand hating your own body. It's not something she dealt with growing up. And even after moving to Olympus and meeting more people she never felt any hate toward her own body. It was only after what happened with Apollo that she felt uncomfortable in her own skin.
But hate was not something she felt. ]
Then we can start off slow. You can keep your clothes on, maybe we can even find some stuff for you to wear that might help you feel confident.
This world doesn't do slow. [A sigh out as Idia composed himself again, one hand dropping as he ran the other up through his hair before allowing it to drop to his knee as well.] I just have to deal with it, even if don't like it. No real time to do proper exposure therapy. [Plus Idia doubts taking it slow would change his view on himself. It's more... he has to learn to tolerate it.
Though...] Ah... once I, ah, get into it... it's easier to ignore. I think. Only really... had that happen once so... not enough to really know for sure. [All his paid times were just... to get the job done.]
I know. [ She offers a sympathetic expression. ] But we don't have to rush anything with the two of us.
[ She nods slowly. She's been there before. Starting off feeling a little self-conscious about a situation only to get into it and forget how nervous she was. ] Then I'll do what I can to make everything enjoyable.
But...still, if you'd like to try some outfits sometime... [ She smiles. ]
[Idia's eyes go wide with that, a pause, before,] What... kind of outfits? [You're not going to force him into a suit, are you? He's got a bad experience with that. With ghosts. Kidnapping him. And almost dying in the process.]
[Eeehhhh, he hates being forced to dress up... and he doubts any of it will even look good on him... but... he's been whining a lot, hasn't he? So,] Um... we can... see as we go? [Isn't that how he got himself into this situation? Thinking he was putting something off to avoid it? Then again, Idia wasn't lying, he enjoys a bunch of stuff via media but not tried any himself so... who knows what he will like or not.]
[ Persephone would argue that just about anyone looks good dressed up if he were to say what he's thinking. But his answer is as good as it's going to get for now. ]
Okay. I suppose the only thing left is to... actually do it.
[Oh... right. Right. Yup. Sure. Talking and planning done. So. Um.] Ah... yeah. I guess... [Ehhh...
Come on Idia, you've come this far, a breath in to steady himself... then another, needing that extra time.] Um, so... ah... when? Is, ah, is... now too, ah, eager? [How do normies do this?! Why does he have to be a total mess with talking?!]
[What does he want...? Well, what he wants is to not have to deal with any of this, but that's not an option. So with the options Idia has... if it's later he can try and get himself mentally ready for this, like she said. But... if he does that Idia may avoid it at all costs despite this talk. Siiighhh, resting his chin down on his knee to think as he fiddles with his can of drink again. Either way this sucks.
Well, it doesn't, does it? He looking to her and... she didn't have to do this, he's kept thinking that the entire time, keeps waiting for the other shoe to drop and her to laugh at him and just walk off, and she still may, but... she kept offering and trying and... hmmm... it, well, it's not like this is a bad option for him, is it? Look at her! How could he think this is bad?! Hmmm...
Eventually,] I-I, ah... I wanna try. [It said from behind his knee, before Idia make himself put it down, trying not to hide behind it anymore.] I don't want to chicken out and... just... not contact you again because I got scared...
I mean you already talked about bondage, donno what would happen if I did try and get away... [Idia mumbled out, but managed a bit of a smile as well to show he was joking around, pausing long enough to down the last of his drink and leaving the can on the table as he stands. Ehhh, he hates his nerves about this. Even after making the choice to do this, curling the edges of his sleeves into his palms.
Oh,] Ah, yeah, let me move some stuff. [Heading off in the direction of his room, maybe a glance back to see if she really was following or this some elaborate prank still, before vanishing inside. It's equally as dark as the rest of the apartment, apart from one corner he's set up as his work and computer station, a constant soft blue tone washing across the room. That half of the room is cluttered, bits of builds all over the place, but a wave of his hand sends them into shelves and boxes for storage. The rest of the room also shows more life than the living area and kitchen; the bed neat bar where he had just gotten up before with the bedding pulled back to do so, a bookshelf that was starting to get filled with manga, and a few stuff toys around, including two from home and one Hypnos gave him.]
Ah... um... [Ah, so... how to start this? Every thing he can think of feels super cringe. Then again, Idia's used to bring cringe, sighing as nothing came to mind that he could even offer to her.] I'm in... you're hands? [Does that work?]
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He blinks a few times at her requirements, pausing to take a sip from his can as he has questions but... ehh, not worth it right now. If it's a no then it's a no. And really, it's not like those were the first places he would go with, well, all of this. Though a bit of a look from him with the mention of no toys. Yeah, that's good to start, he guesses? Just... ehh... tech's so much easier than... most stuff. Tech he knows, this all he doesn't. In theory, sure, just... not in practice.] No, that's all fine. Kinda... [Then a huff of a sigh.] Was gonna say might be 'hardcore' to start with but... not with this place, huh?
[Eeeehhh, as long as they're doing warnings, sighh...] Um... you, ah... saw it a bit but... my, ah... my hair changes when I'm... ah... [Oh gods...] Excited... or embarrassed at that time but... also, ah... yeah.
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[ She lets out a soft laugh. ] No, it's certainly not here. One of my first times involved a remote-controlled vibrator. [ She pauses looking thoughtful. ] Which might not actually be a bad start?
I mean, hear me out, you don't have to really do anything other than control the toy and it'll still count for you so long as I get off. [ They probably wouldn't accept something like that every time for quota, but it wouldn't be the worst start. ]
[ She smiles softly at him. ] That's nothing. When I, um, orgasm I grow wings and explode with all kinds of leaves and flowers. I basically turn into a rose bush.
[ Which is part of why she doesn't like being on her back and beneath someone. The other part having to do with past circumstances. ]
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He... also rather likes that idea of the remote-controlled vibration, even perking up a little at it's mention and... pushing it to the side with a shake of his head. Nope, nope, not going there. Reel it back in. But... that does sound fun... and he has been playing around with some toys, on ways to improve them, hmm... and if she puts it like that.] Ah, maybe we can keep that, um, as an idea...? For later?
So you're saying clean up with you is just a bit more? [Well, she got a smile out of him over his knees, not really laughing at her, but just... amused at the idea of that. Then a bit of a scoffing sound, but not fully losing that smile.] Fire normally burns plants... ah, not that my hair does, at all, not even when I'm angry...
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She bobs her head in a nod. ] Yeah, we can try that another time.
[ She lets out a laugh. ] Yeah, though I can deal with the plants easily enough. The leaves and petals left behind, however, you'll need to vacuum for those.
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[As for refraining from stuff,] I'm not, hm... [Give him a moment.] I guess... I wanna... learn what I like? [Idia sounding unsure as he says this, or maybe just confused.] I mean, I-I, ah, I've really just read and watched stuff not... really done stuff... with others, before being here. It's all... new. Just 'cause I like something in media or don't don't mean will irl, ya know? I-I, ah, I... kinda wanna try bunch of stuff, just... not, ah... with my teeth, that's all. [Part of him wants to... but... he could just do so much damage with his teeth, it's better to not even tempt himself.]
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No, that makes sense. [ She says as she turns her attention back to him. ] It took me a little while before I reached the point where I wanted to experiment and try things to figure out what I liked and what I didn't.
Well, is there anything you've seen you'd like to start with?
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That knocked him out of the distraction of his bots though, eyes wide as Idia's mind goes blank, nothing coming up at all and...] I-I-I... donno? I-I, ah, I hadn't really... thought about what wanted to do here... not, ah, not like with you, just... all of this. I've just... ah, just been... meeting quota with like... eh, [Ehh, it's so embarrassing admitting this. It had been embarrassing the first time he had decided to sort this by paying for it, but it had been a plan, and having a plan helped.] Ah, handjobs or... ah, blowjobs, at... places 'round here that offer that... [Yup, not looking at her, needing to not to just get through this.] But... that's it, really.
[Then the other concern he had since this was so different to that. She was choosing to spend time with him, not forced to.] I-I, a-ah... donno how good I'll be... a-at all... sorry.
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She covers her mouth in an attempt to cover her giggling at his reaction. She fails, but at least she tries. ]
You don't need to apologize. You won't be the first I've been with that doesn't have experience and that's fine. We all have to start somewhere.
[ She looks thoughtful for a moment. ] I think a good place to start would just be to do some physical exploration. You know, just see where you like being touched and where you don't.
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Oh, um, ok, yeah, that makes sense. [Yeah, maybe if he thinks about it like that. Like a check list. In fact, yeah, his brain likes that.] Ah, maybe... as we go, um... make a list? To try? Stuff? [...he knows he's a nerd Persephone, he can't help it... but plans help him, well, not panic.]
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She smiles when he agrees to that, clapping her hands together. ] Excellent!
The real question is... how to start? Personally, I think undressing each other and touching and whatnot would be a good way to do it. Usually... that would also involve some kissing but since you already took that off the table. [ She shrugs. She finds kissing to be a good distraction and a turn-on, little more than that.
Unless it's Hades. But everything with Hades would be a completely different matter. ]
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He just... hates it. He hates it so much. His body. It's such a reminder that he's a Shroud. Not Idia, just his bloodline. Just some skinny shut in who just... ehh. He really is a poor choice for her...] Maybe this is a mistake... [Idia's voice soft with his head down, looking to his hands as they worry. She has better things to do then waste time on him.] You gotta have better options...
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He's not wrong about her having other options, but she wants to help him. It's definitely better to have someone that wants to help rather than to be forced into an uncomfortable situation. ]
I... [ She pauses, thinking for a moment before speaking calmly. ] What is the problem? What part of what I suggested doesn't work for you?
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When he speaks again it's quite, and... full of defeat.] No, it's fine. It's something I'll have to deal with eventually... [He had told Riddle, gods of all people Riddle, when they were trapped in that ice cave together, but that was while that spell or drug or whatever was effecting them, forced them to open up more. Here... there was none of that, not with her... but... she should know, right? A chance to leave if she wants to. She would be smart to.] I... hate my body... all of it. A-all the stuff I've done here... I've tried to stay covered as possible...
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[ She's quiet for a moment, expression thoughtful.
She can't really understand hating your own body. It's not something she dealt with growing up. And even after moving to Olympus and meeting more people she never felt any hate toward her own body. It was only after what happened with Apollo that she felt uncomfortable in her own skin.
But hate was not something she felt. ]
Then we can start off slow. You can keep your clothes on, maybe we can even find some stuff for you to wear that might help you feel confident.
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Though...] Ah... once I, ah, get into it... it's easier to ignore. I think. Only really... had that happen once so... not enough to really know for sure. [All his paid times were just... to get the job done.]
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[ She nods slowly. She's been there before. Starting off feeling a little self-conscious about a situation only to get into it and forget how nervous she was. ] Then I'll do what I can to make everything enjoyable.
But...still, if you'd like to try some outfits sometime... [ She smiles. ]
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There are a lot of shops that sell clothing meant for having fun in.
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Okay. I suppose the only thing left is to... actually do it.
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Come on Idia, you've come this far, a breath in to steady himself... then another, needing that extra time.] Um, so... ah... when? Is, ah, is... now too, ah, eager? [How do normies do this?! Why does he have to be a total mess with talking?!]
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We can start now if you want. But I'm also fine with waiting if you want to, um, prepare yourself. Mentally and all of that, you know?
fuck the dice roll, go for it anyway heh
Well, it doesn't, does it? He looking to her and... she didn't have to do this, he's kept thinking that the entire time, keeps waiting for the other shoe to drop and her to laugh at him and just walk off, and she still may, but... she kept offering and trying and... hmmm... it, well, it's not like this is a bad option for him, is it? Look at her! How could he think this is bad?! Hmmm...
Eventually,] I-I, ah... I wanna try. [It said from behind his knee, before Idia make himself put it down, trying not to hide behind it anymore.] I don't want to chicken out and... just... not contact you again because I got scared...
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As if you could get rid of me so easily.
[ She smiles and takes another drink of her tea before rising. ]
Well, in that case, do you want to do this in the bedroom?
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Oh,] Ah, yeah, let me move some stuff. [Heading off in the direction of his room, maybe a glance back to see if she really was following or this some elaborate prank still, before vanishing inside. It's equally as dark as the rest of the apartment, apart from one corner he's set up as his work and computer station, a constant soft blue tone washing across the room. That half of the room is cluttered, bits of builds all over the place, but a wave of his hand sends them into shelves and boxes for storage. The rest of the room also shows more life than the living area and kitchen; the bed neat bar where he had just gotten up before with the bedding pulled back to do so, a bookshelf that was starting to get filled with manga, and a few stuff toys around, including two from home and one Hypnos gave him.]
Ah... um... [Ah, so... how to start this? Every thing he can think of feels super cringe. Then again, Idia's used to bring cringe, sighing as nothing came to mind that he could even offer to her.] I'm in... you're hands? [Does that work?]
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